Naruto 237.... and Orochimaru would make a great Dr. Frank-N-Furter

[naanima]

Naruto 237... hmm, actually saw that one coming.



I'm confused. I'm pretty sure the implication from the previous two chapters was that Sasuke was not going to be walking up to Orochimaru and say, 'Yo, d00d. Teach me how to bitch-slap my brother'. Or am I missing something. And why is Jiriya so set on Sasuke going after Orochimaru, Sasuke is NOT like Orochimaru. Sure, both of them have major obesessive drives but they are NOT the same. The reasons for Sasuke's search for power is completely different from that of Orochimaru, and that makes all the damn difference. Actually, I'm -really- hating the parallels that the manga is drawing between Team 7 and the the Sannin. They are NOT the same dammit. To say that that Team 7 is like the Sannin is belittling them, and it is really irritiating the hell out of me. But I'll shut up because I believe K-sensei. Honest.

I'm hoping for a major Time Jump. I don't think I can deal with more training. I -need- more plot. Beside, 15-YR-OLDS! OMFG!

Anyways, KAKASHI!!! *fangirls*



If you think about it Orochimaru would make a really good Dr. Frank-N-Furter. I can practically see him saying, "a sweet transvestite from Transsexual Transylvania," and my brain keep on whispering to me that Sasuke would make a good Janet.

I confess, I just want to see them do the 'Time Warp Again'.

Comments

[i-smile.livejournal.com]

:D I was pretty sure he was still going off to Orochimaru--that the "I'll do this my own way" was, instead, referencing his brother. (He won't kill his closest friend for the power just because Itachi said that was what's necessary--he'll make Orochimaru give him a new way to do it.) But, yes. Jiraiya is on crack. He and Naruto might be similar, Sakura might possibly resemble Tsunade very for into the future with a lot of work, but Sasuke and Orochimaru are totally different types.

I don't even think that what Orochimaru wants is power. I think he wants power just because it will help bring him knowledge, his ultimate goal. And, hey, Sasuke really just wants to kill his brother and possibly, if he's still alive, rebuild his clan.

The comparison thing gets to me, too. So lame. :D

(No time jump! Even if that's clearly what he is trying to set up. Nooo...!)

[http://users.livejournal.com/_hissori/]

Maybe Sasuke won't go to Orochimaru after all and Jiraiya's just assuming things, but he probably will. Though, I also don't understand the connection between Sasuke deciding to get power his own way (without hurting people he loves) and going to Orochimaru, because that totally defeats his resolution. But then, Sasuke's not just going to hang out in the forest alone for three years, and with all the Team 7 = Sannin parallels, it's really looking like Sasuke will go go Orochimaru.

Speaking of the parallels, they've been hinted at since waaaay before the Sannin were even introduced (with all those chapter covers of Team 7 with the legendary animals), but I don't want them to become copies of the Sannin, either. I think from this chapter, one distinction between Naruto and Jiraiya was made clear -- Naruto won't give up on his friends no matter what, while Jiraiya just gave up. And I agree, Sasuke isn't like Orochimaru at all, and I think I'd go crazy if Sasuke became an Orochimaru clone somehow.

And about Orochimaru, one of the reasons I like him is because he's just evil and doesn't have any redeeming qualities. Well, I don't like him, really, but neither do I hate him. He just amuses me and creeps me out at the same time. But I think I'll be really disappointed if Orochimaru does end up having some kind of reason behind him being so screwed up, because it's just fun having a villain who's screwed up for no reason, you know?

Also, about the time jump, I didn't really want one at first, but I think one is necessary, now. I mean, we spent 7.5 volumes on ONE day. =_= That's more than a fourth of the whole series. At this rate, we'll be grandmas by the time the series finishes, and there's no way Kishimoto's going to spend 3 years on training.

[worldserpent.livejournal.com]

I have no idea on whether Sasuke is going off to Orochimaru; what he says implies that he's changed his plans in *some* way, but we don't know how or what he means. But K-sensei is drawing the parallels so strongly that I suspect something more must happen between Orochimaru and Sasuke.

I think Jiraiya doesn't know Sasuke like Naruto does. I mean, how much has he hung out with him? He's only seen him from a distance, and Orochimaru, I agree, is just not like Sasuke. Orochimaru is basically a psychopath, and Sasuke is more of an emotionally normal person (well, not that normal) who's just really messed up by Itachi's psychological manipulations. So I though Jiraiya was basically wrong about Sasuke, though I thought he was right about saying that it was better for Naruto to just deal already with the fact that Sasuke had made a bad decision. I mean, Sasuke was in pain there, and Orochimaru in the flashback simply felt nothing. So obviously what we have here is Jiraiya "projecting." (am I using the correct psychological term?)

Orochimaru as Frank. -_- I h8 you, I really do.

I'm divided on the time jump, but I think it is likely based on what they said about Akatsuki. We have no idea why Akatsuki is also going to wait three years (that makes no sense), but there really are no major plot threads to be followed up on other than the continuing Sound threat and Akatsuki.

[flowright.livejournal.com]

parrallel is their way of life. They are in complete denial of the present time.

Look how Tsunade is always comparing the people she met with her beloved dead ones. And How every single person who met Naruto found a striking resemblance between Naruto with somebody else (at the end you have naruto=gaara and jiraiya=naruto so jiraiya=gaara ?).

They all live in the past and can't accept that kids are not a copycat of an other adult but a entity of his own. It's all about the difference between societies which see human as individual and human as a part of something bigger.

I like Jiraiya but I wish everytime he compare Sasuke with Orochimaru that he could chock on himself. I think it's a way for him to dismiss his own failure regarding Orochimaru. It's comforting for Jiraiya to compare with Naruto. I don't usually think high of Naruto but here he's way better than any member of the leaf village by not letting down Sasuke.

[amei.livejournal.com]

I posted a really cool response, involving Sasuke and mountains, and studying for 10 years, and the chick that he'll fall in love with, except that she'd be his half sister, and her father, who'd be his mortal enemy Itachi and Naruto loitering around in the background somewhere.

but then livejournal ate it, the bastard.