Naruto 237.... and Orochimaru would make a great Dr. Frank-N-Furter

[naanima]

Naruto 237... hmm, actually saw that one coming.



I'm confused. I'm pretty sure the implication from the previous two chapters was that Sasuke was not going to be walking up to Orochimaru and say, 'Yo, d00d. Teach me how to bitch-slap my brother'. Or am I missing something. And why is Jiriya so set on Sasuke going after Orochimaru, Sasuke is NOT like Orochimaru. Sure, both of them have major obesessive drives but they are NOT the same. The reasons for Sasuke's search for power is completely different from that of Orochimaru, and that makes all the damn difference. Actually, I'm -really- hating the parallels that the manga is drawing between Team 7 and the the Sannin. They are NOT the same dammit. To say that that Team 7 is like the Sannin is belittling them, and it is really irritiating the hell out of me. But I'll shut up because I believe K-sensei. Honest.

I'm hoping for a major Time Jump. I don't think I can deal with more training. I -need- more plot. Beside, 15-YR-OLDS! OMFG!

Anyways, KAKASHI!!! *fangirls*



If you think about it Orochimaru would make a really good Dr. Frank-N-Furter. I can practically see him saying, "a sweet transvestite from Transsexual Transylvania," and my brain keep on whispering to me that Sasuke would make a good Janet.

I confess, I just want to see them do the 'Time Warp Again'.

Comments

[naanima.livejournal.com]

... ARGHHH! lj deleted my long reply. Hate, hate, hate.

Anyways, continuing one.

Ditto on the T7 and Sanin parallels and subsequent meeting bewteen Sasuke and Orochimaru. The question it, will it be a pleasant meeting (negotiations are fun), or will only one of them walk away.

I think the Jiriaya is not the only one guilty of projecting (yes, it is the right term) more than they should on Sasuke And Naruto. It is sad, but they do it, and it will come to bite them on the arse. Like you, I do agree with Jiriaya's comment on Naruto needing to deal with the fact that Sasuke made a bad choice, but the thing with Naruto is, I really can't tell if he's dealing with it or if it is just not registering that Sasuke made a booboo and will not be coming back. At times it is hard to tell with the boy. But either way if nothing else this chapter does prove that 'Nah, Jiriaya, this boy is so not you.' And I like the fac t that K-sensei highlights the difference.

Orochimaru as Frank. -_- I h8 you, I really do.

Don't forget Sasuke as Janet and Naruto as Delivery Boy. I need to find a good Riff Raff.

Time Jump: Storywise, it will work, but I don't want K-sensei to skip the character development that will happen with a three year jump. They are 12, three years is a looong time fro 12-yr-olds. And they change so much as well. But at the same time I'm desperate for the plot. Desperate! one of them walk away.

[worldserpent.livejournal.com]

Hmph, that's why I always reply out of my mail client. It always pops out, so I always have the original comment to resend. ^^

I think pretty much they do have to have a negotiation of some sort. Like they said, there is the three year thing, and Sasuke thus is safe until then. So I figure there will be an apprenticeship of some sort. (The internship of eeeeevil)

Oh, I don't think Naruto is dealing with it much at all. I felt it was very mature of Sakura to tell him that she didn't hold him responsible because damn it, Naruto tried, he gave it his all, and ultimately it was Sasuke's choice to make, not Naruto's. Now, I think Sasuke will probably come back, so Naruto doesn't need to write him off, but in my opinion, I just think it's unfortunate that Naruto so strongly feels that it's his responsibility to *make* Sasuke come back. He pretty much told Sasuke as strongly as he could, but Sasuke still said no. And at that point I think that's all one could have reasonably expected Naruto to do. But it's probably because I get all existentialist here that I basically believe it's 'disrespectful' of Sasuke's responsibility for Naruto to feel so responsible for him, if that makes any sense.

Hmm, now where does Kabuto fit into that little scenario? XD

Time Jump: If he is going to do it, I'd like to see it start off with an intro of the aged characters, and then go to a flashback of the important events in the intervening years. To me that would be a good compromise.

[naanima.livejournal.com]

I have learned from my mistake, now I just write in notepad and save every second word.

The internship of eeeeevil

*snicker* And tonight on the 'Intership of Evil, we have Mr. Evil himself, Orochimaru-sama, as our special guest.'

Naruto's feelings: I really can't say at the moment because I'm of two mind on this topic. I can't tell if he's trying to get Sasuke back because he want Sasuke back (purely selfish reasoning. Want my best friend back) or if he's going down the well trodden path, 'I want to save him from himself.' The line between responsibility and selfish want has become quite blurred for me (and probly Naruto). It isn't just about saving (bringing Sasuke back) for Sakura now, it is about bring back a friend. And in my little mind I want to think that it is Naruto's selfish want for his friend back that's driving him rather than some sense of responsibility.

And I do understand what you mean on the 'disrepectful' aspect of Naruto feeling responsibility (actually, that was my big bone on this whole arc. Why are you chasing after someone who has made his own decision? That's just disrepectful of his choices.)

Kabuto... ohhhh. I don't know but I WANT to know. I WANT to KNOW!

I'd like to see it start off with an intro of the aged characters, and then go to a flashback of the important events in the intervening years.

That's pretty much how i want to see it happening. The good things with the scenario is that it allows K-sensei to add more 'important' moments in a character's life in flashbacks ^__^V

[worldserpent.livejournal.com]

Naruto: I think he isn't selfish and really is thinking of doing things for Sasuke's sake. However, I still think it just isn't good for Naruto to see this as his personal failure, because it just wasn't up to him in the first place, if that makes any sense. So Naruto is only twelve, so it's not like I expect him to realize that he can't make Sasuke not make bad choices, but it still frustrates me that he doesn't seem to realize that other people screw up their own lives, and once you've said your piece, that's all you can do and you should stop beating yourself up over it.

[naanima.livejournal.com]

Actually, that irritate me as well. I hate the fact that everyone seem incapable of letting Sasuke make his own way (or his own mistakes), and that Naruto keep on thinking he can SAVE everyone and when he fails he goes on blaming himself. It makes him so damn arrogant. It just seems to belittle what Sasuke is trying to do, and what Chouji, Neji and the rest suffered to accomplish.

Does that make sense?

[worldserpent.livejournal.com]

I have a feeling that it's totally a cultural difference and this sort of attitude is more valorized in Japanese culture (culture of interdependence), but my American existentially-oriented self does find that kind of irritating.

Sasuke is a kid, but after all, so is Naruto, and the adults, interestingly, have a less paternalist attitude towards Sasuke than Naruto. But since Naruto is the main person harming himself through this, I just pity him, and yes, it does speak of a certain lack of perspective of Naruto that he thinks he can solve all these problems, but he is after all only twelve and has time to learn.