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a question; old fandoms

  • Feb. 19th, 2005 at 3:40 PM
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It is so strange finding people through lj that you haven't spoken to (well, written to) in years. It is doubly strange when they are in the same fandom as you again (or at least sharing similar obsessions 'cos fandom nowadays seem to be a bad word.) The whole thing make me feel strange as if I haven't really grown much, like the skin that I thought I had shed is still there. Then again, I suppose I haven't. I still read anime/manga, and I really I haven't even departed from the genera of anime/manga that I consume. I'm still a predominantly shounen reader/watcher, while yaoi/shounen-ai/shoujo is addictive it sadly don't seem to have the strong staying power for me. It is the heroes, the sidekicks, and the implications that lead to such a huge amount of yaoi doujin and fanfiction that attracts me. (Though CLAMP seem be the exception, but that is another can of worms that I just don't have the energy to tackle today.)

Anyways, a question to you all: What are some of your old fandoms that can still make you gush like a silly fangirl, or at least put a smile on your face and warmth in your heart?

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[identity profile] hooli.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 08:37 am (UTC)
Houshin Engi. I'm halfway through rereading the manga and have fallen head-over-heels in love with everyone again. TTwTT

I wonder if Hikaru no Go is also considered an old fandom.. it certainly feels like that for me. Yups.
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[identity profile] amei.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 09:05 am (UTC)
I was gonna say Suikoden, but that can't really be considered an OLD fandom.

But yeah, Houshin Engi. So seconded. <333

and SLAM DUNK. Inoue is still forever.
[identity profile] hooli.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 06:04 pm (UTC)
Yea I thought of Suikoden too. XD

So, is that SD doujin project still on? I must get one for my sister if I can. <33
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 03:11 pm (UTC)
HE! There's love from me but it isn't the one for me. But it is such an awesome series!! TAIKOUBOU!!!

Hikaru no Go can definitely be considered an old fandom (and it is the one series that continously send me into a mood of glee).
[identity profile] hooli.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 05:58 pm (UTC)
There're so many priceless characters in HE that it's terribly hard to decide on a favourite. TwT Bouchan!

The thing about HnG is that the English fandom is a lot larger compared to that of HE, and recently I've been stumbling over so many good HnG fanfics that I'm completely obsessed once again (after like what, more than two years?)

And the fic still keeps coming, oh my yes. :D
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 20th, 2005 12:26 pm (UTC)
True. I think HE went over the 200 mark. (I can't remember how many people were on the Houshin list. It has been a long time since I last read the series). But you are right, it is hard to decide who's my favourite, however, that LAST scene in the manga of Taikoubou (well, Fukki) staring into the distance. Oh gods, my heat breaks).

I adore Roushi. Shinkouhyou made my life whole. Fugen broke my heart
Tenka stepped on the pieces. And Gyokutei Shinjin's faet pretty much sucked all teh joy out of my life for a very long time.

Then there's Dakki >_>

I know! The amount of Good HE fanfics lately have been absolutely inspiring. I have been so happy ^_^
[identity profile] code-renegade.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 08:51 am (UTC)
Weiß Kreuz is my first serious fandom, and if anyone so much as says "Crawford/Ken", I am so there XD
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 03:12 pm (UTC)
*laughs*

I actually expected that!

*whispers* Crawford/Ken.
[identity profile] code-renegade.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 03:52 pm (UTC)
WHERE???? >D
[identity profile] calicokitten17.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 09:44 am (UTC)
Yoroiden Samurai Troopers. A pretty old show in the English fandom nowadays, I think...
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 03:13 pm (UTC)
The TROOPERS! OMFG! I didn't think that many people knew them. Loved them as kids. They were the best! (though they did often compete with my other viewings. 'Transformers' and 'City of Gold' were some heavy competition.

SEIJI!!! (You can tell which Trooper fan I am... >_>)
[identity profile] calicokitten17.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 08:00 pm (UTC)
They were the best! Although, now I'm like, why did I ever watched it dubbed...

Seiji!!! He's my second fave! Shin is my fave, and it's terribly sad because he gets the least screentime in the show.

Yeah, I didn't like how the third OVA ended. Left everythigng a little too open.

The show is so slashy, too, but that might be my inner yaoi fangirl speaking...
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 20th, 2005 12:16 pm (UTC)
YES! LOVE THEM!!! I only have ever seen them dubbed in Mandarin. Have no idea what they sound like in English or Japanese. You know, one day I really need to to watch the series in Japanese.

Ryou is my second favourite. I'm a sucker for the shounen hero >_>

I have never seen the OAV, you've got to expand on that now.

The slash is not just you. God knows I was slashing Ryou/Seiji left, right and center *koffs*
[identity profile] calicokitten17.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 20th, 2005 07:10 pm (UTC)
Voices are definitely better in Japanese.

Ryou's near Seiji in my list of people I like most in the show. I mean, how could you hate the boy? That little kid, on the other hand...

Yay, the slash is not just me. Ryou/Seiji is so cute, but I think my favorite pairing is Ryou/Shin, and then Touma/Seiji. Seiji is quite slashable, though...poor boy he was in the first OVA...
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 21st, 2005 06:49 am (UTC)
YES! RYOU! *happy sigh* I wish the damn kid died, hell I can't even remember his name anymore.

I did like the tiger ^_^

OHHH! Touma/Seiji! I just never got into Shin for some reason. I suspect it is the lack of screen time. But yes, Seiji is indeed quite slashable. You can pretty much slash him with anyone, including the bad guys.
[identity profile] perseid.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 02:00 pm (UTC)
Rurouni Kenshin. =3 And Saitou looks better and better with age. XD
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 03:14 pm (UTC)
Oh yeah. The first time Saitou appears, and teh fight between him and Kenshin in the dojo... *happiness* He's just so cool.
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[personal profile] archangelbeth wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 02:24 pm (UTC)
ElfQuest.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 03:15 pm (UTC)
OMG!! The comic series?

I really liked them, though I never managed to get more than three volumes.
[identity profile] code-renegade.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 03:49 pm (UTC)
Elfquest :D :D :D That series rocks, and DC has recently started printing them in manga-size format. The artist herself is re-layouting everything and even adding new drawings to the series. You so must get it XD
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[personal profile] archangelbeth wrote:
Feb. 20th, 2005 06:00 pm (UTC)
I have most of them. They're coming out in B&W manga-format now, as well as "archival" hardbacks in full color. "Remastered" full color, as it happens. The most recent new one is... well, practically painted. It's lovely.
[identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 05:44 pm (UTC)
Slam Dunk, I think. XD Mostly I just think of all my fandoms as being "current".
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 20th, 2005 12:11 pm (UTC)
*laughs* We all think our obsessions are current. I swear one day I'll read 'Slam Dunk'.
[identity profile] i-smile.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 19th, 2005 06:34 pm (UTC)
:DDD, if I thought that anyone would be at all interested, I probably would still talk about Vampire Chronicles (in fandom c. 1998-...just after Rice sent out the C&D letters). Most of the rest of the things I was hugely into in a fannish sort of way had no fandom (or at least none that I knew of), so.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 20th, 2005 12:12 pm (UTC)
Oh gods, I remember that. Looking back on it the whole experience was a bit of blur. But damn after Memnoch I just dropped out completely.
[identity profile] i-smile.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 20th, 2005 04:55 pm (UTC)
Oh, man. I remember that, like, two people--if that--admitted the existence of Memnoch, while the rest of us just pretended it didn't exist, or if it did, it was just some freaky dream Lestat had. (It wasn't hard; the actual vampires were only in the book for, like, three pages.) Everyone considered the first three books canon, and most people went with Tale of the Body Thief, too, but after that, it was all pick-and-choose. This fandom taught me all about selectively ignoring canon. :D
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 21st, 2005 06:47 am (UTC)
fandom taught me all about selectively ignoring canon

Exactly. I kept on hoping the series would pick up again, then 'Armand' came into existence and I give up on Anne Rice. Don't get me wrong I adore the first three novels, and think Tale of The Body Thief was interesting but anything after I refuse to acknowledge.
[identity profile] i-smile.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 21st, 2005 06:55 am (UTC)
:D, TVA was part of my canon (aside from the whole bit about not caring about Daniel anymore, because WTF, Armand, NO, OTP FOREVER, and then those two kids Marius had vamped) because it supported David/Armand, which I had liked the idea of even before then. *shallow*
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 21st, 2005 07:02 am (UTC)
The only thing going for TVA was that Armand was alive. The two little twits that ends up with Armand was liek 'WTF?!' Hates them *stabs* And let's not even talk about Armand's reaction to Daniel. Yes, let's just forget the years of interaction between Armand and Daniel, the obsession, the love, the damn mind games, and the fact that Armand cared enough to make Daniel. HELLO! WTF was the not caring for Damiel thing?! GRRRR!

The anger. So much damn anger. (But I'm ALL for David/Armand.)

Out of curiousity, did you read 'Marius' (at least I think it was the title), where we actually get to see what Daniel has been doing. Daniel-dear has pretty much reverted to a child-like state. He lives with Marius and build model cities and houses. It is kinda cute.
[identity profile] i-smile.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 21st, 2005 07:14 am (UTC)
Oh, man. The into the sun thing. I totally forgot about that because it was ABSURD. It's like, everyone and his maker had to go into the sun over some trivial incident after Lestat opened the floodgates. Armand/Daniel was my favourite part of QotD by far, and then to go and say that Armand was totally over Daniel? Yeah, right. He's still not over Lestat and Louis, and he's not so intimately connected with them. *stops now*

...dude, really? I haven't read it. Is that Blood and Gold? I read the first chapter of Merrick when it was posted on the board I went to, and then refused to read any more of the series. That was the very last straw. There were better Mary Sues on our fanfic board. :D Poor Daniel, though. Childlike state. :/ (I had wondered where that characterisation came from in the RPG I follow. Have you seen [livejournal.com profile] carryondancing?)
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 21st, 2005 07:35 am (UTC)
Stupid, absurd, WTF? all rolled in one. It destroyed all my happy fangirl dreams. Bitch. Armand/Daniel in QotD, definitely. The scene that sticks in my mind the most is Armand waking up Daniel and asking (shouting) Daniel to teach him how to use the phone, and Daniel screaming back that Armand was 400-yrs-old, figured it out yourself. I love that scene.

Exactly. Armand get all wobbly whenever Louis or Lestat enters the picture. It has been around 200 yrs. I have this theory that Armand has been lying through is teeth and is in complete denial.

Yep. Really. I have no idea which book it was. I skimmed the book like there was no tomorrow, only stopping for the Daniel bits. hmm, thinking back I think it might have been about some random vampire, and for one reason or another the vamp met up with Marius, and thus, Daniel. The explanation given was that Vampires have a tendency to get mesmerised by the world (like the Akasha), or suicidal (Nicky), and it is just that Daniel has been memsmerised by the tiny wooden models that he make. Or something like that. It has been over two (maybe three) years since I last read it. But yes, poor Daniel, all these vulneralbilities and Armand is off having a threesome with the Two Twits. It is endearing and sad at the same time.

(No, I ahve not read the RPG, but now I think I shall attempt to follow it.)
[identity profile] i-smile.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 21st, 2005 07:50 am (UTC)
:DDD! Yes. And his always being there. I was like, Oh, man, creepiest thing ever. I would have felt sorry for Daniel for having met the vampire world's obsessive, but he didn't seem to mind too much, and Armand always helped out when he was needed. I wrote really bad Daniel/Armand angst when I was 12, 13, 14, 15. :D

Armand is totally lying. He is like me with my fandoms. HE NEVER GETS OVER IT. He probably still has a thing for Claudia & Nicky, and he just used them to get to Lestat 200 years ago.

Worst explanation ever. :D What, is Lestat the only one who's exempt? Maybe Daniel just drank his brain cells away, and it's only now showing up. DO NOT TELL ME ARMAND IS STILL WITH BENJI AND SIBYLL. >:( Benji is like Claudia with extra sociopath flavour, and Sibyll is stupid and insane. Quick, Armand, throw them in the sun before they're too powerful to die!

(It's pretty cracked-out. :D Awful parody characterisations, some of them painfully spot-on.)
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 21st, 2005 08:07 am (UTC)
Can't feel sorry for Daniel. He's one of the few people who asked for it and got what he wanted. Hell, he was actually a consenting adult when he was made, knew exactly what he was getting into and seemed to have really enjoyed himself. And Armand did help, always pulling Daniel out of one problem or another. I read/dreamt/imagined about Armand/Daniel for the longest time.

*laughs* Total agreement, Armand is indeed like me and my old fandoms. I just keep on going back to them. Everyone have a thing for CLaudia. The girl is like a highly infectous disease. (Adore her, but Claudia did things that set her own fate in stone.) As for Nicky, I wish there had been more on him. Of course Armand would still have a thing for them. He is incapable of letting go.

It is the worst explanation. The book probably explained it better, but for the life of me I can't remember how it was explained. Well, Lestat was in that coma-like state for a pretty long time. I suspect Armand is still with Sybill and Benji. But darling, Claudia had more class and more sociaopahtic tendencies in her little pinky that the Twits.

(And the RPG is damn hilairous. I see what you mean about accurate. Hindsight and all that.)
[identity profile] i-smile.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 21st, 2005 04:56 pm (UTC)
He'd been pretty much begging for it for a while, hadn't he? And if he didn't expect Armand, at least he must have expected something, going to search for Lestat and all. Yeah. Can't feel sorry for him for that.

I felt so sorry for Claudia--she got turned to dust back when vampires actually could die. :D If only she'd waited around another book or two... and, hey, if she'd waited around three, she wouldn't even have to worry about the never growing up thing, because she could've made a fledgling and then switched bodies.

Well. Lestat was in the coma, but he never went suicidal or stupid-insane. And what about Armand? (I will just blame Rice for this. She stopped making much sense pretty soon after she fired her editors.) That's probably true. Oh, Claudia. :/ She wouldn't have hesitated to kill those two before anyone could do something stupid like make them immortal. I miss her.
[identity profile] rayemars.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 20th, 2005 05:24 am (UTC)
Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It was my introduction to fandom and all its offshoots, madness, and in-fighting, and it shall thus always have a place in my heart. *grin*
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 20th, 2005 12:13 pm (UTC)
*laughs* I never saw the ugly side of the Buffy fandom. I only stayed for the fics and stayed out of the politics. And the in-fighting in fandoms always seem to make me smile ^_^
[identity profile] worldserpent.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 22nd, 2005 07:25 pm (UTC)
Bleah, from what I've seen of a lot of the Western fandoms, I like anime/manga fandom better. (will refrain from ranting)

I think I just don't have whatever mental gene it is that makes people get into BL and to some extent shoujo fandoms. I just don't have it in me to be grabbed enough to start babbling about them endlessly, while I can talk endlessly about a shounen series like Bleach or Naruto or TeniPuri. Maybe there's about one entry in me about each one I read/view, unless there is something really strange about the series.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 22nd, 2005 11:50 pm (UTC)
The first thing that pops into my mind when talking about W-fandom is 'Harry Potter,' which pretty much everyone agrees is a bit of a monster. (Don't refrain. Rant away. I'm curious ^_^)

Me too. Just can't put endless energy into obsessing about BL and shoujo. But oh, give me shounen anyday and the likelihood of me shutting up about it is near impossible. I just wishh they get a move on in certain series >_>
[identity profile] worldserpent.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 23rd, 2005 12:03 am (UTC)
I know it is damn hypocritical of me of all people to say it, but it's the pretension and rudeness and stupid flamewars over political topics. Aesthetic snobs I can take. I don't mind being condescended to on taste issues. Moralists beyond a certain min level of decency I cannot. It's kind of like some people might see fandom as some kind of social-rebellion/critique, and okay, good luck to them if they want to, but it annoys me that they insist that everyone else must do it this way and they go around lecturing people about how they are not politically evolved or not.

Shoujo I can sometimes do, but it has to have a certain sort of plot. BTW, go look at the DN comm. I do not have the proper emoticon to express my ideas on this.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 23rd, 2005 12:45 am (UTC)
I hate getting politics, or any other RL issues involved in fandom. It seem, to me, to defeat the purpose of being in a fandom. The reason I'm reading about make-believe characters is because I don't want to deal with RL (And because make-beleive is fun ^_^). So, it is fun, it is involving, and it is damn addictive, when it comes down to it it is entertainment, and wish people would just leave it as entertainment.

I just read 'DN 59,' it could be worse, and it isn't that bad.... maybe. *whispers* I have hope.
[identity profile] worldserpent.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 23rd, 2005 06:08 pm (UTC)
Pretty much it's not that they want to take it politically, I think they have every right to do so, but to go around insisting that other people must agree with the interpretation of such and such act as political and then alter their behavior for those reasons is going a bit far to me.

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