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More LJ-crap

  • Aug. 20th, 2007 at 11:32 PM
naanima: ([Quote] I'm confused)
LJ staff-member [livejournal.com profile] rachel screws up once more on PR & customer relations by implying (or explicitly stating) that fan artists are child pornographers... this can only end in drama.

More and more of my flist are migrating from LJ to greener pastures. I wonder how much longer LJ will continue to systematically weed out ‘unwanted’ factions, this is unbelievably fascinating.

Someone got TOS’d because their depiction of characters looked young, even though she had a disclaimer which stated that the character is 18. This can be devastating to many a fan artists as 80% of anime/manga characters look like they are underage, and it is very normal, for aesthetic purposes, to have younger looking depictions of individuals. Ohh, repercussions.

Just how will this new twist affect LJ’s business?

ETA: I just realised that once again it is Harry Potter fanart. Hmm, also, why is there a Pepsi layout? Did I miss something?

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[identity profile] worldserpent.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 20th, 2007 04:17 pm (UTC)
Eh, it's mostly quieted down after Anil Dash apologized, claiming he was responsible for something or other about the language.

It's not really a systematic weeding, though. If it were a weeding, LJ would operate like DeviantArt, where people are encouraged to maintain content standards by reporting things to the staff. Instead they got rid of... two people? There are probably hundreds whom they could effortlessly get rid of on those grounds.

Same comm too. It seems that someone is grudgy. Personally, I think it's someone inside of HP fandom who's doing the reporting. For various reasons, I doubt it's one of the activist groups, and it's certainly not /b/.

Oh, that was announced in news, the Pepsi layout. That is also engendering controversy. To be honest, I think the pepsi thing is going to affect LJ's business more than the fandom thing.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 21st, 2007 12:03 am (UTC)
Um, ok.

It seems, to me, that they are trying to get rid of the high-profile individuals who produces fan-items that can get them in hot water, and at the same time attempting to keep everyone else. They need the content but they can get rid of a few minor content contributors. What's really bad is that many of my flist has left LJ, and when they a portion of individuals left with them. This is all so incredibly interesting for me.

Ah, trolls!

I think the Pepsi and the Fandom thing will just play off each other. Also, for me, it was never about fandom so much as LJ's customer service, and their obvious attempt to NOT inform their customers of what's going one.
[identity profile] worldserpent.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 21st, 2007 01:17 am (UTC)
Nah, I don't think they care at all about the 'high profile.' I seriously doubt that they have any idea who is popular and who is not in the HP fandom. I think the thing is that they're not focusing on fandom, they're focusing on content. And some of this content that they have now decided they're going to clearly ban (it's not clear to me if this was always their policy. It might be that this was what it always was, but no one had reported fanart before) falls into the category of fanworks.

Well, given that one of the images removed was flocked, it would have to be? But I think it's not really someone external, as troll implies, but someone in fandom, although this is just my hunch.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 22nd, 2007 01:27 pm (UTC)
I think you are right about the content, the problem is that the 'content' in question can easily lead to bigger bans. It is the gateway to much more censorship. Also, it is quite obvious, to me, that it is HP that is being targeted, the recent complaints may be from someone who have problems with certain individuals, but the initial push was all about HP.

I think LJ is just smart enough to use the people with grudges to conduct their witch hunt.

[identity profile] worldserpent.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 22nd, 2007 01:38 pm (UTC)
They also deleted some anime communities in the first one, as well as pedophile groups, the lolita spanish reading community, and some support journals. I really don't think it is a deliberate attempt to target HP, otherwise we would see much more than one or two journals being deleted this round.
[identity profile] sadieko.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 20th, 2007 04:32 pm (UTC)
Of course it's Harry Potter again. There's a corporation the size of a planet that doesn't want anyone else's dirty fingers touching their property.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 21st, 2007 12:05 am (UTC)
This will only lead to Drama and Stupidity. I personally think people take copy-rights way too seriously, especially in a fan arena where no one is making a profit.
[identity profile] code-renegade.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 21st, 2007 03:45 am (UTC)
Am I the only one wondering why the ones being targeted are HP slash artists? It's almost like a sort of warning - "don't want to be banned? Don't post HP p0rn!"

At this rate, even my mostly-above-legal-age fandoms will be moving because their artworks are being judged on how much the characters LOOK like underage peeps instead of the age statement being relied upon.

Or maybe, just maybe, someone at LJ totally hates manga/anime and sees this as a great chance to get rid of not just the fandoms, but the art style as well (after all, manga style produces a lot of underage-looking characters).

Conspiracies ahoy!
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 22nd, 2007 01:24 pm (UTC)
HP - One of the BIGGEST money making franchise. All you need is one little American child to ask - "Mummy, why is Snape licking Harry's peepee?" And LJ will get their ass handed to them by WB, JKR, and Scholastic.

The judging of artworks by the way they look is one that's just going to come back to hunt everyone.

It's actually quite plausible, though that doesn't explain how it has only been the GAY(M/M) that has been targeted.

CONSPIRACY! I keep on hoping it would be some sort of awesome Conspiracy, but realistically speaking it is more likely to be management incompetence.

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