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Supernatural 404 - Metamorphosis

  • Oct. 11th, 2008 at 11:20 AM
naanima: ([SPN] Ruthless Sam?)
A good episode. Nothing fancy but solid in what it needed to convey.


So, using the psychic powers no longer hurt Sam. Considering what happened with the other psychic kids this can be a very bad sign. Except Andy never went bad despite his powers. Interesting. If we take Ava as the prototype of Sam, it means that eventually Sam will be able to control

I like the new Ruby. I like that she can carry off the nice sincere look but within a split second can change into Evil!Demon.

Dean punching Sam, twice, Dean being fucking angry, Sam being so hurt, and just the whole fuckedupness of their relationship hurts.

"You were gone. I was here." OMFG! That line; so fucking succinct, and so damn painful.

"I'm done with them. I'm done with everything." This is Supernatural, things doesn’t just stop because you are tired.

"This is my choice." But is it really? How much of it is Dean, is the Angels saying he is evil, and just how much of it is Sam.


POWERS AND MOTIVATIONS. GUNS ARE NOT INHERENTLY EVIL.

You know what. I actually agree with Sam. Using his psychic abilities to take demons out and letting the victims have more of a survival chance = NOT a BAD thing. Also, not using your abilities does not mean they are not there. Ignoring it won't change anything, and in fact it will more than likely come back to bite you on the ass.

I’m rather conflicted about this point; on the one hand I do think using the powers will lead to a bad end, but I also think not using the psychic abilities will lead to a worse end. Or at the very least not knowing how the psychic powers work is a really bad idea. It is like a gun is a weapon; it can cause death but it isn’t inherently bad, which I know is one those trite metaphors but it works in this scenario.

I went shooting for the first time a few months back, and while it was unbelievably fun and exhilarating, it was also damn terrifying. You gain an understanding how if you are not careful with it, if you don’t know how to be careful with or how to use it, someone can get hurt or easily die, and it was terrifying. I think Sam’s powers is like a gun, if he doesn’t understand it, know how to use it, there is a huge chance he will inadvertently hurt someone because he doesn’t know exactly what he can do. The 4 months he spent potentially practicing his powers is not a bad thing, it is his motivations and his reasoning that I’m more weary of.

So, what I’m trying to say is that I don’t think the psychic powers are inherently evil, or that it causes its users to be evil. It seems to be more of a case of ‘power corrupt’ because yes, Ava, Jake and Ansem went evil, but what of Andy of that girl who got killed by the demon. To me, it seemed that circumstances and to a large extent due to their own choices many of the psychic kids went crazy and ‘evil’. Think about it; Andy didn’t turn evil because he is happy with what he has, he is content, the power is there but because he has nothing more than he already have, the power in many ways can’t change his personality. Andy had not motivation to anything more than what he already had. Ava, well, I think Ava decided she want to survive, and that, well, that probably made many a morally difficult decision easy to make. When it comes down to it I think it is about choice, the powers is there, and how Sam choose to use it and for what purpose will decide what he’ll end up being.

I think maybe I’m more of an optimist when it comes to Sam, because I want to believe that he understands the consequences of using his powers, that knowing what he can do doesn’t mean he should or would. That Sam will know where the line is and stop before he cross it. I don’t know I just feel that it is rather hypocritical and wrong to let people die during an exorcism when Sam could have saved them. It isn’t the powers I’m worried about, it is Sam’s motivations that terrifies me, because yes, saving people from demonic possession is good, but how far is Sam willing to push it. Where is his line, at what point is using those powers wrong? Because Sam, when angry, when his loved ones are in danger (Dean) is ruthless. And a Sam with his ruthless streak at full blast with all of his powers at his fingertips is terrifying.

Also, not using those powers does not mean everything is going to be honky dory, demons are going to continue to come after Sam because after all he is the Boy King. So, unless the Angels are willing to help a bit more, I honestly think not using those powers is a rather strategically dumb decision.

It is good to see the brothers together again.

Comments

[identity profile] shorofsky.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2008 05:43 am (UTC)
Hmmm, I really do not like the powers at all and I understand why Dean is so terrified of them. My theory is that Dean believes that those powers will condemn his baby brother to Hell - and put him beyond Dean's powers to take care of him - which must undoubtedly be the worst thought in the world for Dean whose entire life has revolved around nothing but taking care of his little brther. Especially now that Dean's been to Hell and knows firsthand what it's truly like it must be difficult for him to imagine his kid bro going there because he engaged in murky business with a demon. Even if the actions seem good, he is still using his demon given powers and from an angel's POV that cannot possibly be good. I think, though, that our friend Cass is morally ambiguous too, because he's clearly an Old Testament angel and thus has no understanding of grey areas or justifiable actions. He sees black and white and Sam's powers are bad, thus his using them are bad and God must smite him for it.

However, allof what I just said makes me think that's not at all what Kripke wants me to think because if it were, that'd be much too simple and I want to give him more credit than that, you know?

I bet the thing Dean has to stop isn't even Sam using his powers, but possibly using his own. I have a feeling we've all been Kripke'd since the pilot ep in which Dean said a lot of times that he could 'feel' this or that or that he 'instinctively' knew something. I think Dean's powers are still latent, though, but he seems to be able to read and manipulate people to such a degree that it reminds me of Andy's powers more than just the con man's ability to cold read people and make them think and do things they don't really want to do based on that initial cold reading.

Wouldn't it be awesome if Dean was a different breed dof psykid?

I liked the ep, btw, it was back to basics for the show and that's what I want to see more, you know?

Could we not, though, get smacked over the head with the possibly implications of similarities between Sam and some new typeof metamorphosing monster??? We're smarter than that...Grrr...
[identity profile] threecatmama.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2008 02:01 pm (UTC)
I’ve been thinking these same thoughts regarding Sam’s use of his powers. And like you I am optimistic. In fact, I still hold onto the tiniest hope (but it is growing dimmer) that Sam was born with his powers first and Azazel augmented them with his blood. I know Dean’s angst and anger is really just more of his irrational fear of loosing Sam, but his anger over the powers is hypocritical. It’s horribly hypocritical to tell him to not exorcise demons humanely with his powers, but then tell him the knife or the colt would be acceptable. This is probably Castiel’s POV, not God’s, and Castiel probably gets a lot of leeway as God’s spokesperson. But he has his own interests and they are very black and white.

I am also of the belief that you need to be educated about something that is dangerous. I teach in a rural district where 6th graders routinely take hunter safety courses to teach them respect and safety with weapons. My friend’s step-son lives in an urban area and is the same age. He’s fascinated by guns. My first thought was have him take the safety course. Dispel the mystery.

So Sammy trained with Ruby for months. He feels good to be helping people. I think back to “Playthings” where he stated the more good he could do the more he could overcome his destiny. And maybe that’s the crux of the situation. What if Sam can master his powers and use them for good. Wouldn’t that be a big F-off to the YED and his master plan!!!
[identity profile] makishef.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2008 03:02 pm (UTC)
I really enjoyed this meta. I agree with a lot of the things you wrote, including the metaphor of Sam's powers as a gun.

They're an innate part of him; ignoring them doesn't make them go away, and if all he wants to do is save more people, be more efficient in how he does it, how is that evil? I don't think using your demonic powers is necessarily a good thing, but this is not a blanket concept of "good" over here and "bad" over there. Sam is sitting in morally gray territory, but from what he's said, his heart is in the right place, he's trying to do good, and he has done a lot of good.

But I also think that the moment he lets go of his control or takes it too far, the use of his powers does become evil, and I think the temptation will only grow stronger the longer it sits there. I think the more casually and frequently he uses them, the more casually and frequently he will use them, and the consequences will be easier to disregard.

Sam's powers are not inherently evil. The use of his powers, even knowing their source, does not seem to me to be inherently evil. But I wonder if being told they (and by extension Sam) are evil is only going to make the possibility of him abusing them that much stronger.
[identity profile] waldorph.livejournal.com wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2008 11:10 pm (UTC)
As much as I want to be optimistic about Sam's use of his powers, the fact that it's Ruby's influence that likely got him thinking along those lines (or at least facilitated and legitimized that train of thought) and that Castiel specifically told Dean to stop Sam or the angels would makes me think that, yeah, this is probably going to end badly if he doesn't knock it off.

And, in the context of the episode where although Jack bit for legitimate reasons he still ended up as a monster, I just can't get behind Sam's powers.

But I can appreciate how hard it is for Sam to be in this situation.

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