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  • Mar. 14th, 2006 at 1:49 PM
naanima: (soylent green is people too)
Well, not sure how I feel about this. Though, to me, it seems to be missing the simple point of emotional and physical repercussions to the woman in question. Mind you, if I was the woman in question I wouldn't even bother fighting it through the court, I'd have just told the child (when s/he) is old enough the truth; one of your genetic donor was a dickhead who was so selfish that he couldn't comprehend loving anything beyond himself.

Yes, not fair, but in this case I find myself not really caring.

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[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 15th, 2006 09:24 am (UTC)
There need to be an effective men's birth control. Presently ALL chemical birth controls fuck up the woman's body. Lower libido, mood swings, weight gain, and so forth.

On the issue of not having sex; I half agree with the issue and half don't. I agree that in situations where the man have made it explicitly clear that he's just in it for the fun and don't want a child, but the woman does and in fact goes about attempting to get pregnant (don't snicker, one of friend was conceived through a series of events on her mother's part for the sole purpose of marrying the man.) In cases like that; well, the woman deserves what she get, however, having said that, what about the child that is born. All children deserve love and financial security, just because the woman is a fucking retard does not mean the child should suffer.

To me, the whole thing isn't about the money (though I'm sure it is to other people). It is the recognition of the fact that the responsibility of having a child does not rest solely on the mother. And the way the article goes about the whole makes is sound as if it is all the woman's fault, which make me angry enough to kill.

Two people can be in a sexual relationship where both don't want children, however, accidents happen. The fact that all a man has to do is walk away, while a woman have to go through a fucking abortion (and if one more person give me this shit about how it isn't a violation of a person's body I will kill something.) I'm lucky if I were in a similar situation I will have enough backing to have the child without much worries, but some woman isn't, and yes, it is a choice to have an abortion, however, not every woman wants it (what you say now maybe completely different from when it actually happens.) and then what?

This issue make me angry.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Mar. 16th, 2006 01:32 am (UTC)
I honestly don't care how manipulative a woman is with her birth control in order to get pregnant. If you don't trust your sexual partner (and I'm all for trusting no one when it comes to my well-being, physical or financial), then you take the steps you have to take to feel safe. This applies both to possible pregnancies and to possible STDs. Saying "She should pay for everything because she told me she was taking birth control!" is pathetic. People lie. If you don't know that by the time you've hit puberty, you should probably hold off on adult relationships for a few more years, until you're ready to take personal responsibility for the risks you take. I mean, dude. If you wouldn't give your bank card and PIN to a woman you met a month ago, why would to trust that she's using some form of birth control? (Don't you believe her when she says she'll only use the card to buy your groceries?)

The fact is, once a baby comes into the equation, we're not talking about the woman's rights anymore. The baby did less wrong than its father or its mother, whatever they did; why should it suffer if someone doesn't want to pay for it? I totally agree that the responsibility is a joint affair, and that people who don't think so are severely underestimating the gravity of any of the choices a woman has when she finds she's pregnant.

Abortion and pregnancy are both emotionally difficult, and both physically risky. If someone is entering into either one, we can be pretty sure that she doesn't think the other one is an option, whatever she thought before she became pregnant this time. Likewise with, at the end of a pregnancy, deciding to keep the child or give it up. I don't think it takes much empathy to work that out. :/
[identity profile] i-smile.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 16th, 2006 01:35 am (UTC)
I was just so dismayed at the selfishness displayed in the link that I couldn't even log in. :D

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