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naked truth 5

  • May. 4th, 2005 at 5:44 PM
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Naked Truth 5... OMFG! WTF!? FeiLong, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!



Repeat after me; Takaba is an idiot.

FeiLong is possibly (highly likley) completely and utterly insane. Shooting Asami was not the smartest move. Hell, having sex with Takaba, getting shot in the stomach by Asami, and then kidnapping Takaba was not a good move. It is like the Tro-clon (and if you recognise the reference I'm using you get a big cookie,) except with more Men!Sex (not that the Tro-clon had Men!Sex but that's beside the point.)

So, what does the Great FeiLong do? He kidnaps TAKABA, and TAUNTS Asami, telling Asami that if he want to see Takaba again he'll need to come to Hong Kong!



On second thought the whole thing makes perfect sense. Go FeiLong! Achieve your threesome revenge.

Comments

[identity profile] baka-neko.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 4th, 2005 01:58 pm (UTC)
*snickers* Takaba sacrificed his ass for the Great Authorial Intention! XD Honestly, that's totally how it reads. If I were in Fei Long's expensive footwear though, I'd totally react that way. Note, react -- I suspect this is wounded pride and machoism talking, as well as unresolved lust the size of Macau, but what do I know? XD

As for Asami...actually, this is a long time coming, if this was a yaoi plot replete with cliches. God knows there are ton of rape stories out there that ends with "And they screwed and screwed and then decided they loved each other even though it was totally non-consensual." Time for Asami to show his true feelings that could only be expressed in rape!
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 4th, 2005 02:15 pm (UTC)
Definitely arse raped for the Great Authorial Intention. Ohhh, and you noticed the expensive foot wear too? (Well, ok, the whole epensive package but that's beside the point.) I wouldn't say Macau, I was thinking maybe the whole of Australia. If you think about it the two are kind of the similar, under appreciated by the rest of the world. We can be together in out Great notUnderstanding.

It has been indeed a long time coming, the story is going to move toward the direction of Asami being all Grr, get your hands off Mine, etc., professing his love in the Great Traditional Seme way and such, which means the likelihood of his having sex with FeiLong to be nil *put off*. It is not that I don't like Takaba (kind of), it is just that the thought of Asami and FeiLong together pleaaaaaaaaaases me greatly. I'd rather read/watch FeiLong any time of the week than Takaba. I suspect it is the expensive foot wear (or the hair, or the angst, or the major jealousy thing -_-)

I'm such a FeiLong fangirl.
[identity profile] jennifier-d.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 4th, 2005 04:48 pm (UTC)
*wanders in*
Plot? What plot?

Other than that, I suspect that what you and Cleo-neechan said is probably right. (Bring on the sex, yeah man.) *coughs* I mean, like, the Naked Truth series had nothing close to a plot. It's about as random as yaoi manga goes, but you get lots of smut. Like, a lot of it. More than you can take. And Fei Long shooting Asami is only going to piss him off further. I think she was trying to work towards a Asami/Fei Long-something relationship, except that I get the feeling that Yamane-sensei's a softie and she wants it good for everyone but with the way she structured the story nobody's going to get off on the really good end except for Asami. And probably Takaba. Eventually. And poor Fei Long is going to be victimised again for the sake of more Asami/Takaba sex. (I'll remember not to let my inner Fei Long fangirl out too frequently, I promise.) And can I say that I don't really care if Fei Long dumps Takaba in the Victoria Harbour meanwhile? He's beginning to become a really annoying character who does stupid things repeatedly and pretends that he's not a dumb uke half the time.

I'm losing coherency because it's late and I have a paper tomorrow morning and my brains are crammed full of computing stuff.

(And I swear she's probably been reading fanfics because the whole 'come to Hong Kong to save your boy toy's ass!' thing just reeks of... bad fanfic-ness (like mine.) *nods*)
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 5th, 2005 02:20 am (UTC)
Re: *wanders in*
Well, at least an attempt at pretending to have a plot :D

I get the feeling that Yamane is falling into the trap of yaoi plot line (or lack of plot line). It isn't as if she can't pull off a plot, it is just that she seem to only be able to pull it off for a short time, which is kind of sad. But yes, it is all random sex from now on, not that I'm complaining, but FEILONG! *fangirls* I was thinking along the same lines except I was leaning more toward FeiLong being Villainised (rather than victimised) so Asami and Takaba can fuck. Takaba is really starting to piss me off. Screw being a rational fangirl, I'm all for FEILONG! *screech* However, I'm in a bit of a problem; after 'Naked Truth 5' I find myself getting pissed with Asami, I'm beginning to find his choice in bed partners to be rather disappointing, and in many ways Asami's motives for doing things are beginning to get boring. Or at least the motives that I think he's acting on, (Takaba is not a good enough reason to shoot FeiLong.)

*pats* I understand your pain. I dream of 10 column worksheets and Net Present Values. It isn't pleasant *sighs*

(But I /like/ your fics, which remind me, while Yamane's attempt is just irritating the hell out of me. Though I suppose I should feel glad that FeiLong is getting all pro-active. That remind me, I MUST comment on your fic, just as soon as I get my act together -_-;;)
[identity profile] jennifier-d.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 5th, 2005 05:00 pm (UTC)
Re: *wanders in*
*cracks knuckles and gets down to replying* Semi-plot? Kind of a plot? I've read all five chapters so far (glanced through NT5 because I was in the lab and boys are squemish about ghei 2-D porn on neighbouring computers) and I'm still not too sure about what the hell Fei Long is trying to do. Is he attempting to attract Asami's attention by whacking his boy toy around? Oh, well, he certainly got that, and a bullet wound in his stomach to prove it.

And yes, you are right in that this Asami is probably someone a bunch of aliens zapped and returned the wrong stuff or something. Let's make a quick comparison with their past here. Asami isn't a person who shoots someone for no good reason. In fact, so far, the impression of him I got off Yamane-sensei's portrayal is that he's a tough nut but he's not the typical yakuza boss who kills simply because someone twisted his panties the wrong way that day. He's first and foremost a businessman, I believe. The yakuza bit is like a bonus on the side or something. And he has proven that he can't hurt Fei Long (unless you are talking about his sadistic traits) and even during their last confrontation over the disk, all he did was shield his (stupid uke) uhm, Takaba with his body and wave the gun threateningly at Fei Long. (I would also like to add the Fei Long appears to have lost whatever marbles he has left in NT.) And poor Fei Long is-- yes, villianised for the sake of Asami/Takaba sex. Which is all in bad taste, I feel. There is a story in Viewfinder. (I'm not talking about Naked Truth.) And while it needs telling, especially Fei Long and Asami's past (because it was so lopesided in the second book) this is definitely not the way to do it. Yes, Takaba's involved now, you can't scrape him off with a stick even if you want but I think the issue is really between Fei Long and Asami, with no Takaba in between. (And... uhh, what was I saying again?)

But my papers are over! *burns them* And now I can go back to being a full-time fangirl. :D

(You like my fics? O_o Do you need like, eyesight check? Pro-active Fei Long is probably Fei Long on opium. Uhm. I mean, this guy is a sucker for self-punishment. And he's delusional. I bet he's still angsting over Asami choosing a younger (and not necessarily prettier) boy over him. But see, he would never say it so he just bear grudges and imagines stringing Asami by his gut but never come around to the why bit. *nods*)
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 6th, 2005 12:05 am (UTC)
Re: *wanders in*
I have a theory; Yamane went and pretty much fucked up FeiLong's characterisation for Teh Asami/Takaba. That was cheap and a really bad use of an interesting character. But hey, since I really can't say anything since I have never had anything published before. Ditto on Asami, everything he did in 'NT5' is all rather WTF?! What happened to Asami?

I know what you are trying to say; Takaba stay the fuck out of Asami and FeiLong's Issue. They need to deal, and despite the fact that Takaba is probably going to be Teh One True Love to Asami, he still isn't part of the problem concerning FeiLong and Asami.

(I /like/ your fics. Do you know how damn hard it is to find /good/ FeiLong fics? I'm so sick of Asami and Takaba it is no longer funny. Funny you should say that, it does seem to be case; FeiLong becoming all pro-active when he's smoking his pipe. Though that might just be selective memory on my part. FeiLong is pro-active, just not on the issue of Asami, though id we are accepting 'NT5' it does appear that he's taking the initiative (to what? A double suicide between Asami and him?!! Oh yes, FeiLong would want to tear Asami open from the inside out, and would wear Asami's entrails around his neck. And he'd do it without knowing why *nods*)
[identity profile] jennifier-d.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 6th, 2005 05:13 am (UTC)
Re: *wanders in*
*nods* Had to agree. It looks like that, and it's very likely that part of her planning process is interfered by her editor, who knows what will haul in more money. (Maybe she wanted to do something on Asami/Fei Long but her editor told her Asami/Takaba is more popular so, no go, had to work on that pairing instead?!) I'm beginning to lose respect for Asami here. Back in the first book-- fine, Takaba's life's at risk because of Asami's disk, and he has questions to ask, so I can understand why he went after Fei Long. Now? Because he wants to save his boy toy's ass? So maaaaybe he felt something for Takaba, so he's doing so much, but he's a yakuza boss. I don't know, he doesn't seem like the kind of want such attachments. I mean, that's why he abandoned Fei Long so many years back. (He could have saved him. But he didn't. Oh gee, Asami, we all know what you were thinking about then huh.)

Absolutely correct. Except that they're not solving it, not just because Fei Long's waited long enough (probably) to be worked into a mighty mood over it, but also because Asami doesn't seem to think there's a problem between them. *sighs*

(Uhm. I still find those fics bad, like, 'moonflower' is tolerable, 'Jade and Lacquer' is quite WTF-ish and 'chasing the dragon' is total WTF. ^^; And yes, I'm in the-- 'if I see another Asami/Takaba fic I swear I'm going to dig someone's eyes out' mood at the moment. The fandom is saturated with Asami/Takaba. Where's the Asami/Fei Long love?! *cries* ....and I really like the idea of a double suicide between Fei Long and Asami. Mm. Nothing is better than tragic, doomed love affairs, except for a lot of sex AND tragic, doomed love affairs.)
[identity profile] baka-neko.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 5th, 2005 02:45 am (UTC)
Re: *wanders in*
Heh, must agree-- it was like Yamane sensei gleefully taking potshot at every yaoi cliches she could think of, and making it hot and funny again.

Mm, honestly cannot see Fei Long and Asami get together -- I actually like a Fei Long who is his own boss. Asami likes people under his control, and Takaba...bounces back. I am reminded of small children who would play with sponge balls -- they'd squeeze and wring, and once they opened their hands, it'd explode back into shape. And then they'd do it again.

Fei Long is not like a sponge ball, and would not take kindly to Asami's treatment-- if it were Feilong in Takaba's place, Viewfinder would be a helluva lot angstier, and probably end in murder and explosions and weeping readers. (I would, but I'm a softie too.)

Have you read [livejournal.com profile] petronia's comments though? She talked about how the readership reacted to the whole rape thing-- except if you're into Beboy, rape stories are a dime a dozen, and kudos to Yamane-sensei's skill that people were actually outraged at Takaba's rape at Feilong's hands. I have the same feeling towards Takaba -- he's acting like how the dime-a-dozen raped ukes have acted-- and everyone is screaming and asking him if he's left his brains in Asami's rented hotel room.

This of course, does not mean I'm not going to join the shrieking fans and smack Takaba one. Did you leave your brains in Asami's rented hotel room?! Did you? Did you? Why, for the love of god, why?
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 5th, 2005 07:16 am (UTC)
Re: *wanders in*
I'm with you on the characterisation of FeiLong and how him and Asami is just a no-no (even if I only came to the conclusion after 'NT 5'
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I'm with you on the characterisation of FeiLong and how him and Asami is just a no-no (even if I only came to the conclusion after 'NT 5' <_<). It is probably why Asami is starting to irritate me. My problem is that the manga series is <I>about</I> the Grand Love of Asami and Takaba, however, in my little fangirl mind the whole series have somehow narrowed down to being ALL about FEILONG! OMFG! SQUEEE! (At least I'm honest.)

Takaba, at the present time, is meh. I'm not going to bother calling for his blood because as you pointed out; it is all about the Great Authorial Intent. So, bygones. Actually, the feeling of meh might be the worse reaction, if I hated him at least then it would mean I feel something for Takaba, but more often than not I'm indifferent to him.

Well, at least the sex is good, and if nothing else everyone is pretty.
[identity profile] jennifier-d.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 5th, 2005 05:11 pm (UTC)
Re: *wanders in*
I think Fei Long is pretty much his own boss where his territory is concerned. He has proven it before back in the second book, though I can never understand what was Asami critising about him. (Perhaps there's something wonky with the chinese translation.) I think he can hold himself pretty well as a leader, but he just kind of looses it whenever Asami is around and that say A LOT.

If it were Fei Long in Takaba's place, I think we'll be on like, book 5 of Viewfinder and there will still be no end in sight (not to mention what you said about death and explosions, races all over Hong Kong and Japan, lots of shootouts, angsty and angry declarations of I HATE YOU (from Fei Long's end) and then makeup sex. LOTS AND LOTS OF MAKEUP SEX.) *pretends that she isn't a self-delusional fangirl for the moment* *sighs* Everything is going to be so charged up.

Maybe he did. Leave his brains in Asami's rented hotel room. :3 I didn't have a particularly high opinion of him when I started reading viewfinder, and let's just say that I can't quite find the bottom at the moment. And like naanima, I'm not even in the 'I hate Takaba!' mode (as compared to the increasingly popular 'I hate Fei Long's guts' vibes that are going through fandom now.) I'm just like... *waves hand about vaguely* whatever. So he's like the dumb uke of the lot now-- okay nothing new there.

Just a question, though, and probably because I'm visually impaired since I only glanced through NT5. Did Takaba actually minded the rape? Hmmn. (I shall not head for where my brain is waving lots of red flags and hooting in an indecent manner.)
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 5th, 2005 11:54 pm (UTC)
Re: *wanders in*
You know, the image of FeiLong screaming I HATE YOU to Asami right in the middle of a shoot-out is unbelievably attractive *happy sigh* The makeup sex just makes everything that much better. Charged up is GOOD! It means there is actual chemistry, rather than /just/ Porn. Not saying porn is bad, but /backstory/ make the whole thing so much more interesting.

I have been noticing the 'I Hate FeiLong' mode that the 'Viewfinder' fandom seem to be falling prey to. The whole thing makes me tired, so, I just sit in my little corner looking at FeiLong with adoring eyes.

That was what I wanted to ask but then I though I might have imagined the whole thing -_-;; But you /are/ right, it look as if Takaba is /enjoying/ it. (Brain wander down the same direction as you. Probably.)
[identity profile] jennifier-d.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 6th, 2005 05:01 am (UTC)
Re: *wanders in*
*pets* XD Pr0n with a story! Oh my, how many yaoi manga come with that anymore, huh. I had such high hopes for Viewfinder (and while I was hoping that she'll finish up the Asami/Fei Long unresolved issues) I didn't think she's going to drag it in the mud and make Fei Long the villian (again. There must always be a villian somewhere.) I think despite her fondness for Fei Long, she has a bias towards Takaba.

*joins naanima in sitting in the corner looking at Fei Long with adoring eyes* *____*
Fei Long: *get spooked, then angry*

I need to go download NT5 again to read it in detail, though it's really very painful and Fei Long's probably on crack or something when he decided on raping Takaba. (First time round, okaaay I kinda have an idea of what he's thinking, since Takaba is Asami's boy toy and everything.) *mopes* And if Takaba's enjoying it, that puts so much... implications into the things which have happened. (Or not?)
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 6th, 2005 07:25 am (UTC)
Re: *wanders in*
... Hmm, how about none? Mind you, I really should know better, yaoi is great for fun, shallow angst, porn, and pretty men but plot it ain't got. I had a truck load of hope for 'Viefinder'; pretty art, interesting characters, and ohhh, plot. But now I'm getting so disappointed *pouts* Bias away on the Takaba, I'm not terribly fussed, there will always be my imagination ^_^

*attempts to bribe Fei Long with pipe... hmm, pulls out a picture of Asami instead* Here, here, here Fei Long.

The whole rape thing is getting old. The second time around didn't look like rape so much as a semi-consensual fetish thing. I'm deluded enough to think Takaba enjoying it signifies a sign for the way of a Threesome ^_^
[identity profile] jennifier-d.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 9th, 2005 02:57 pm (UTC)
Re: *wanders in*
*LOL* Well, yaoi in Japanese manga appears to be heading on that trend for a while now. You do not want to know the number of good (and bad) pr0n yaoi manga I read on a weekly basis. XD And I'm so tempted to stop reading NT because Fei Long is beginning to out-seme Asami there. *coughcough*

Oh. I've read it again. He might be calling Asami's name but I'm pretty sure that he's enjoying it (just as Fei Long was enjoying it uhuh.) *scuttles off*
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 9th, 2005 11:46 pm (UTC)
Re: *wanders in*
Fei Long is beginning to out-seme Asami there.

I'm... I'm terribly intrigued by that mental image... *nose bleed* carry on.

Oh definitely, the two are so enjoying it... hey, maybe Takaba and FeiLong can get together, and work our their Asami-issues together. Butt sex seem to be answer.
[identity profile] jennifier-d.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 10th, 2005 02:58 pm (UTC)
Re: *wanders in*
Erm. I mean, he's certainly behaving in a very *coughs* seme manner with Takaba, and with whatever crack he is on now, I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to get Asami to surrender his butt instead. O:D

*LOL* Maybe they should just gang up on Asami- *is shot, repeatedly*
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 11th, 2005 12:22 am (UTC)
Re: *wanders in*
Flunky: Happy Pills. Need happy pills for Master FeiLong.
Doctor: Here *hands over prescription*

*an hour later*
Doctor: Oops. *prescription reads: steroid* Well, he does need some extra omph.

Well, as long as FeiLong keep on acting that way who knows whose butt he might end up getting *snickers*


Ohhh, ganging up on Asami is th eperfect way to get to his bu- *get brained*
[identity profile] jennifier-d.livejournal.com wrote:
May. 13th, 2005 02:05 pm (UTC)
Re: *wanders in*
*DEAD* Uhm. Everyone's? Asami might wake up in an unfamiliar bed to find himself screwed? Literally.

*agrees totally-* *second one in the row to get brained*

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