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Methylphenidate

  • Nov. 24th, 2006 at 11:00 PM
naanima: ([Dogs] GonnaFUCKshitup)
This is why I shouldn’t read things that would piss me off.

One of the things I learned when I was studying psychology (4 years man, 4 years, so yes I do know what I’m talking about) was the utter contempt for the over-prescription of legal drugs. That is, professional pill pushers have my scorn (doctors and other health professionals who have made contracts with major pharmaceutical companies and gain commissions based on the amount they fucking sell hence, ‘pill pushers’). However, my major hate (yes, I say hate) is the over prescription of Methylphenidate, it is usually branded by the commercial name of Ritalin.

Methylphenidate is a stimulant that targets the central nervous system. It keeps people calm and allows them to focus (focus my fucking arse). It is mostly used on children suffering from ADHD, when I say children I’m talking about kids between the age of 6-14, fucking 6 to 14-yr-olds. This is beyond stupidity, first off; all symptoms of ADHD described in the DSM-IV are BEHVIOURAL problems, at no point does it state the illness as a fucking bio-chemical or physical. So why the fuck is health professionals prescribing a CHEMICAL altering drug to target a behavioral problem? Why are parents accepting this? Because the world is populated by greedy-soul-sucking dickheads and people who should’ve never been allowed to reproduce.

Children are loud, they move when they are bored, intelligent children will become disruptive in class if they are not being stimulated, children will throw tantrums because they are not happy, they will get angry when something doesn’t go their way. Yes, this can all be very irritating for parents and teachers, but this does NOT give them the fucking right to dope children into submission, to make them into the equivalent of fucking robots. You provide disciplinary actions, you act like a parent and not a fucking stranger who can’t be bothered to go to the effort of caring.

Any drug used in the field of psychology and psychiatry produces bio-chemical disruptions in the normal functioning of the brain. Yes, even the drugs prescribed to people who suffers from manic depression and schizophrenia (while drugs are needed for schizophrenia, as it is an issue of bio-chemistry, the side effects for such drugs are damn horrifying. There’s always a trade-off.) There are millions of children out there doped up to the gills because their fucking parents can’t deal with the reality of children. These children’s brain functions are effectively being disrupted by the use of Ritalin. They are fucking up their children so they don’t have to deal with the reality of children.

I have no problems with the prescription of the drug itself to people who do need it, i.e. people who has suffered from brain trauma. However, to let it be prescribed to parents who can’t handle their hyperactive children makes me go into a blind rage

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archangelbeth: An egyptian-inspired eye, centered between feathered wings. (Default)
[personal profile] archangelbeth wrote:
Nov. 24th, 2006 04:06 pm (UTC)
Despite my minx's problems concentrating on things that bore her... The school has never once, thank the gods, suggested that she has ADD or ADHD. They've all said, "She's young for her grade level." And they've worked with us to help her adapt. (She skipped kindergarten. Now that her assessment test scores have come in with levels more the norm for 6th graders, I think they understand what behavioral problems we were seeking to cut off by giving her more intellectual challenges than the local K-programs provided...)

My mom's been terrified that they'd try to drug her up. (she's got a lot of stuff up on her LJ now and then: [livejournal.com profile] archangelsmom) I've been quietly worried, and oh so glad when it doesn't even come up.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 24th, 2006 07:21 pm (UTC)
Thank the gods for you (as the mother) and the school your daughter is enrolled in. There are many schools out there who would suggest to parents that their kids may be a bit "too" active and recommend them to a specialist, and the next thing you know it is prescribed drugs. (That's it! My dad is a prime example of the trouble maker in class, and it was because he was about 2 grade levels higher than what he was studying. It is always helpful when parents takes the time and effort to understand their children.)

I'm a bit confused, the sentence makes it sound as if you don't have a choice in the matter. Does it mean the schools in the US have a bit more control on the health of children?
archangelbeth: An egyptian-inspired eye, centered between feathered wings. (Default)
[personal profile] archangelbeth wrote:
Nov. 24th, 2006 08:10 pm (UTC)
It depends on the school, and the affluence of the parents. Poor parents in a school which is very pro-drugging can be sued, essentially, for refusing to give their child the prescribed medications. (Or threats to have the kid taken away, etc.)

If the school wanted to get a kid on the drugs, the parents would either have a fight, possibly legal, or have to find a private school or some alternative.

(Thus, affluent parents who can afford a private school or lawyers... are not as likely to be featured in horror stories of "single mother on welfare whose child was taken away because she refused, the monster, to give the child Ritalin.")

If the very attempt at a diagnosis of "ADD" or "ADHD" doesn't come up... then that whole tension is bypassed. (They're probably right, in that the "problem" the kid has is basically that she's young; her attention span is that of a normal-range almost-7 year old, and she's in class with 7 and 8 year olds. Her handwriting is age-norm, near as I can tell. Her spelling ranges from norm to high. The rest of her scores? Oiy. Anyway, they figure if we can all cope till she's a few years older, everything will even out.)
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 25th, 2006 02:32 am (UTC)
Poor parents in a school which is very pro-drugging can be sued, essentially, for refusing to give their child the prescribed medications. (Or threats to have the kid taken away, etc.)

I- I honestly have nothing to say to this except I think I'm going to be sick. You know, I always want to think the best of people but there are times when I think humanity, at large, is screwed. I don't know what can make people threaten and hurt others just because it will be easier. I - yeah, still stunned here.

(This makes me sad and scared, and all the more for the making of as much money as possible in my future so that I have the option to choose. Financial freedom is something I need. I also hate the media for being on the side of the pharmaceutical companies.)

Thank the gods for that small blessing. (She could just be bored, I mean kids do only pay attention to things they like. But good to know that the school doesn't go straight to the pill bottle.)
archangelbeth: An egyptian-inspired eye, centered between feathered wings. (Default)
[personal profile] archangelbeth wrote:
Nov. 27th, 2006 01:58 pm (UTC)
The claim is, of course, that the parents are abusing/neglecting the child by refusing to do "what is necessary" for the child to function in the school.

There's a reason I went to private schools my entire life till college. "Bible Belt" public schools (or at least Texas ones) seem to be very... unable to cope with unique snowflakes.

And yeah, my minx is totally the sort to get bored -- or frustrated -- at the drop of a hat if something isn't exactly in the sweet spot of her interest range. Not so easy it's boring, not so hard that it's frustrating (and since so much stuff is easy for her, she doesn't do well with frustration).

She's doing better this year, it looks like. Getting more of her math "mad minute" (30 questions, one minute, Go!) equations finished, for one. (And her placement scores were... through the roof. Muwhahahaha!)

Anyway, I'm very happy that I don't have to look into homeschooling at this time! I'd go INSANE.
branchandroot: oak against sky (Default)
[personal profile] branchandroot wrote:
Nov. 24th, 2006 06:42 pm (UTC)
A-fucking-men. The things they do to nominal adults in the name of 'normal functioning' is bad enough. What they do to kids is appalling. And the blithe disregard for side-effects makes my blood boil. These kids are going to be utterly /screwed/ as they get older. Dependent or burned out or some other horrifying thing.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 24th, 2006 07:25 pm (UTC)
It gets to me every single time that doctors (who has vowed to heal and not hurt) would prescribe people drugs when it is simple as telling the individual to change their diet, got out and scocialise would do. The fact that prolonged use of some of those drugs can cause the onset of schizophrenia and other illnesses boggles the mind. I have a friend whose husband was on Ritalin for several years (prescribed to him when he was child because he was the class clown) and it really fucked him up there for awhile.

It just makes me angry.
[identity profile] sadieko.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 24th, 2006 07:07 pm (UTC)
For a light of hope -- there are people who know better and are doing what they can.

My maternal grandmother was a teacher for forty years before she retired. She had several children in the classes over the year who were on Ritalin and she always worked with the parents and found other ways of teaching the children to get them off the drug.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 24th, 2006 07:31 pm (UTC)
*Nods*. My old abnormal psych professor made it very clear to our class (around 70 odd people) in our last year that we would only ever consider the use of drugs (via referring to a specialist) if the illness is indeed a biological one (schizophrenia), and that even then it needed to be combined with cognitive behviour therapy. I'd like to think that a new generation of health professionals will appear in the next decade who will not be blinded by the lure of a quick fix and money.

I think I adore your grandmother, that takes guts and efforts. I know my entry comes across as harsh, but I can empathise with a teacher dealing with so many students and just not being able to cope with problem child- but it still make me angry to think it is happening to a child.
[identity profile] sadieko.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 24th, 2006 08:26 pm (UTC)
Overcrowded classrooms and lack of teacher resources is a big problem for a lot of schools. And, in my opinion, one of the primary causes behind over-prescription of Ritalin. My grandmother (in addition to being amazing) was fortunate to work for a good school district, with a Magnet program and off-site camp ground facilities for summer events.

Now when it comes to prescriptions for adults with problems -- well. I don't know enough. I know my girlfriend and two close friends have Anxiety disorders that they medicate; for which I am grateful, because it enables them to function in ways they weren't able to before. My girlfriend hopes to get off of the meds in the future, but for now they mean she can live her life.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 25th, 2006 02:39 am (UTC)
*nods* It makes me want to chew my own hands when governments decide to spend billions on war but refuses to spend the much needed money on domestic affairs such as the education system. Your grandmother is the awesome, question; what is a Magnet program?

I'm a firm believer that prescribed drugs is not the evil of the world, it is the fact that it get prescribed when it shouldn't. Ouch, higher anxiety disorders can be crippling; it effect every aspect of your life. If properly diagnosed certain anxiety disorders will require the aid of prescribed drugs, but only in conjunction with cognitive behavioural therapy. The drugs in the case of anxiety disorders is a short-term fix (the longer she's on the drugs the more reliance/higher tolerance and more dosage she'll need to take). It's probably a good idea to start easing back on the dosage while getting therapy. I know clinical psychologist (at least in Australia) provide the type of therapy she'll need.
[identity profile] mithrigil.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 24th, 2006 07:12 pm (UTC)
Word to your motherboard.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 24th, 2006 07:32 pm (UTC)
*laughs*

I think that's the nicest thing anyone ever said to me. The phrasing of it makes me glow with warmth.
[identity profile] pink-bagels.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 24th, 2006 08:31 pm (UTC)
Word. When I found out that over half the boys in my son's kindergarten class were on Ritalin, I made it *very* clear that my son was not to be 'labelled' an ADD kid. I even pre-empted the whole conversation by taking him to a pediatrician and having *her* diagnosis him as...GASP....A normal five year old boy!!

Luckily, most of the doctors and pediatricians in my area seem to be on the side of the child, as in, refusing to prescribe Ritalin or diagnose ADD/ADHD solely on the complaints of a teacher. There's been a marked consesus among medical professionals here that it's being overdiagnosed, and most of the 'behaviours' can be easily corrected with a bit more exercise and an examination of a child's diet.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 25th, 2006 02:44 am (UTC)
I asusme you're living in the U.S? From the replies I've been getting it seems that the US schools have way too much power on the decalaration of whehter a child is suffering from ADD or not. You go! Pre-emptive actions are the way to go, also, I'm very happy that your son is a healthy 5-yr-old!

marked consesus among medical professionals here that it's being overdiagnosed

This makes me very happy; during my last year of psych all my lecturers told us in very clear terms that we do not refer a client to a specialist who can prescribe drugs unless we are 100% sure that the client is suffering from an illness that can only be treated by drugs and not just therapy alone. My whole class was very anti-drug by the time we graduated, and there was an underlying belief that even the illness that does require drugs can be aided by simulatenarous cognitive behavioural sessions.
[identity profile] pink-bagels.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 25th, 2006 03:47 am (UTC)
I'm in Canada :P. I'm not sure, but I don't think you are permitted here to force a parent to drug their child. In fact, there are many kids in my son's class whose parents have never gotten immunized (now *that* I think is stupid! We don't need a brutal, strong version of rubella because you want your child to be 'different and hip', thank you very much! )

I'm personally a big believer in the 'retrain the brain' process--When I worked with severe autistic adults, one resident went from what could only be described as a plastic state to one of activity and interaction when guided to.

It's all a matter of motivation--My son has started getting 'good notes' in his agenda book from his teacher and surprise surprise--He's a star pupil! I kept telling them they would get more bees with honey with him, he has the personality that won't work for you unless he knows what the reason why he should and what he's going to get out of it.

Ritalin is far too much of a quick fix to be taken seriously, IMO, and I wholeheartedly agree that it's scary there are no real long term studies on the effects of this drug on developing brains. Kids have enough crap to contend with: caffiene, pesticides, food dyes, overabundance of a single enzyme (ie: corn, peanut), 'engineered' foods, processed foods, trans fats--why add yet another chemical to the already deadly mix?

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