Poll: Marketing research; please HELP!
- Mar. 10th, 2006 at 12:27 PM
So, if a bookmark has the following dimensions;
+ Width: 3.6 inches
+ Width: 8.6 cm
+ Length: 2.2 inches
+ Length: 5.4 cm
The book mark will have a matt finish (meaning it will be really shiny, high quality stuff).
It is business card size and will contain several colours.
[Poll #688116]
Feedback, suggestions and so forth greatly appreciated. (HELP!)
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From my own meagre selling of -stuff-, not neccesarily bookmarks, is that people would rather buy something that is cheap and looks like shit (ie 80gsm photocopy paper prints @ $5), as opposed to paying a little more ($8) for something that is of better quality (200gsm card semigloss SUPER+++ MY ART HAR HAR.), no srsly.
Of course yeah you have to factor in that most of my shit were originals, as opposed to, I dunno, shiny catboys or overatted games. D:
bitter? fuckyea
and yea matte finish is the one that isn't shiny. gloss is shiny.
I want to talk business with you. Say, let's whore the fan art book-mark thing. Possibly.
no bleach plz. I don't do that kinda stuff. T^T
See I don't mind fanart, but it's when people draw the same thing, over and over again, it's like, man don't they get bored??!?!? *coughs*
I'll probably call you sometime in the next week or so.
[...I like 'Bleach'.]
wow selling over internets? unless it be at jafwa
btw what is your icon from?
Internet/JAFWA/WAICON, anywhere I can to get some money.
One would imagine ideal price here would depend on quality, selection, and how many of the other things the buyer's likely to want. (That is, he might be perfectly happy to spend $4 on two different bookmarks, but will be reluctant to pay over $10 even if he really wants that third one. And forcing him to narrow down his choice by one might lead him to conclude that he doesn't really need any of them.)
If, for example, I charge $4 per bookmark, I will sell 3 bookmarks for $10! Or perhaps, $2 per bookmark and 3 bookmarks for $5! And so forth. You know what I mean.
But be careful with that! For some reason, when there's a bargain, I'm even more critical of the normal price. And if you have to buy four or five of something before it kicks in, especially if it's quite a large discount, as a percentage of the original cost, I get all >:/// and tend not to buy anything at all. Internal rip-off alert, I think. (Then again, I only like to think that my experiences can be generalised for the rest of the buying population. I actually have no idea that this is so.)
... You always leave me speechless.
And I wouldn't pay more than $2 for a bookmark, even if it had fanart I liked on it, not when I could get a simple bookmark for less than a dollar in some places.
1. The artist.
2. The art style.
3. The quality of the merchandise.
4. The publisher/co. that made it (that is, whether the product is copyrighted).
Obviously I'm willing to pay good money for a bookmark made by a professional mangaka. But I can also be persuaded to spend the same amount of money on a fan artists' work (both fanart and original art) if I like their art style. For example, I never hesitate to buy P.L. Nunn's doujinshi, prints, or other merchandises that I like. The price is not a factor there, though I have to say she charges very fairly.
So I can't really give you a price until I've seen the product.
See, the problem is trying to find a generic style that the, um, mass would buy for a relative cheap price. However, at the same time still producing something of a very specific and high quality nature. As it is, the start up price for printing (double sided on really nice paper; matte and laminated) is quite expensive, and I really need to able to justify the ratio of people who would be interested in buying the finished products.
I need to do some more market research and then I need to produce a few samples, and then we will see.
Matte finishes are really, really nice, especially after lamination. I got some really great B&W art printed on matte paper and then laminted, and there's this lovely 3D raised-art effect going on.
As for what to draw on them, I'm not sure? Maybe have some regular lead characters, and say "we'll draw your bitch for you for $XX!!" for custom-ones (because you never know when a crazed fan might pop up and wave money for their favourite artist to draw). In the meantime, I'll hide my sorry arse attempt at raising money for Medecins Sans Frontieres *hides Green Lantern fanart postcard*.
They are! OMFG! They are so beautiful and pretty. It is also triple the price when it comes to printing -_-;;
That's really good idea! Though I'm slightly worried about the Intellectual Property aspects of it. To start off it won't be a problem, but sooner or later the IP/Copyright issue will need to be faced *sigh* (MWAHAHA! The whole business plan thing is paying off). And I -love- your fanart. You have gotten so much better!
An alternative is heavy card stock, or else cheapo prints laminated. If you're in this for the long haul, it may actually be cheaper to buy a small lamination machine. Should set you back about $50, but the lamination pouches are quite cheap. You'll break even and start saving when you hit a certain volume.
Well... remember that fanworks are essentially copyright violations. But there are plenty of artists who make things like bookmarks, and in Japan it's practically a fan-culture to violate copyrights like so XD;;
Thanks for the compliment - still mada mada dane.
If you have an idea of what you are doing, and you don't mind sharing it, why not email it to me at darkly[at]limitlessdesire[dot]com? I can go through it, give you suggestions and all that. Been selling online since 1999 after all, and I'd also like to think that my fascination with marketing can actually be applied to real life.
I'm actually thinking about buying a lamination machine. To tell the truth I'm willing to spend approx $500.00 to start off the while thing. Once I have spent the money I'll keep at it. I admit the whole thing come from wanting to earn some cash but not being able to get a job that I can do (time constraints.)
I want to move away from fanworks because of possibly ABN purposes in the future (Australian Business Number.) Thought to start off I can always do fanarts.
I love you!
See, at the moment it is ideas, research, and sometime (in the next 2 months or so) a concrete finance plan. I'm trying to think bigger than what I'm used to. I want to get this to work. 1999? Dare I ask how much of an income you make? (I want something that can sustain me... which is going to be interesting because I don't think it can... yet.)
Give me 2 weeks and I'll email you something more than just random ideas and nothing concrete enough. I want to get this to work and I'm going to need all the help I can get.
That being said, you have to be realistic. It sounds to me that you are doing something similar to cafepress - basically getting a bunch of artists to draw and produce a specific merchandise (for now), paying them a percentage while you take the rest, etc. That kind of business won't net you much money unless you expand, and since your profit margins seem low, it may work out to be a poor per-hour rate for the work that you're doing (contacting artists, updating site, going to printer's, buying supplies, etc). I won't continue to speculate for now - shall be interested in seeing your ideas later!
How much I made? Initially, before anime stores became prominent in USA (that's where most of my customers are), I could make quite a nice margin. But now with the competition, I'm just not cutting it anymore. Just as well that I'm shifting to a niche market. Basically, there isn't as much to be made as before. But something original still enjoy a certain amount of popularity since:
1) supply is usually limited, and
2) supply, if available, is rarely shipped outside of the country of origin.
Just something to think about while you write up the stuff :D Not going to spill all my money-making beans here now, am I?
But sharing is caring? XP
And so on and so forth.
See? I do listen during my Technopreneurship lectures!
Problem is, if you are selling online and going to use Paypal or something similar, then you're going to lose a lot in fees. Either you price the bookmarks higher to off-set the fees and run the risk of putting people off, or have a lower price and deal with fees+production = little/no profit.
And I've found that fanart sells more than original as a rule.