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  • Aug. 29th, 2005 at 7:45 AM
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Just when I think I understand all the cultural intricacies (or at least instinctively know them) of the western world I'm shot down by a small cultural phenomenon. I did not know that most Australian parents (is this true for the Americans too?) do not tell their children about how much they earn, or how much money they pay for bills. This is a complete incomprehensible act to me. And once again I realise what my first year psych lecturer said was true. Don't ever assume that you think you know everything.

Hmm. I’m hungry.

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[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_hissori/ wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 12:03 am (UTC)
Well, I'm Chinese, but we live in the US... and my parents don't tell me how much they earn or how much they pay for bills. =\ I'm not sure what most American parents do, though.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 02:07 am (UTC)
And this is me finding the whole thing strange. Sure I have been living in Australia for over half of my life now but I'm Chinese. I can remember, as far back as when I was 6-yr-old, mum explaining to me how much money she earns and how much it was going to cost to pay for bills, etc. Hmm, dad did the same thing. Both of them never brushed me off about how much they earned, I mean I asked mum and dad about it a few days ago, and both of them sort of blinked at me assumming that all parents told their children about moeny and bills etc., to teach them about the importance of saving and budgeting.
[identity profile] keelieinblack.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 12:23 am (UTC)
Well, I'm American, my parents are American, and they never told me. I even asked them straight out several times when I was younger, because I was curious, and all they would say is, "We make enough." I think the general feeling is that it's not polite, even within your own family.

Come to think of it, I still don't know the exact total, though I could probably estimate.
[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_hissori/ wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 12:48 am (UTC)
Yeah, that's the same thing my parents do. I've asked them how much they make before, but they never told me because they were afraid I'd go tell other people. And I still don't know the exact amount either, though I have a general idea.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 02:11 am (UTC)
I didn't even need to ask -_-;; Mum use to tell me how much she made and how much she was spending to pay bills and food, and later on dad did the same thing. And when I told them that a lots of Australians didn't know how much their parents earned, my parents gave me this blank look. They just assumed all parents told their children how much they earned and how much they needed to pay for bills, so to teach them how to budget and stuff.

Mind you, I'm from Main-land China, I have no idea if the South East Asian Parents tell their children or not.
[identity profile] worldserpent.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 12:45 am (UTC)
When I was a kid, I would ask, and they would tell me, but tell me not to tell other people. Of course, when it comes time for college, it's impossible for the kid not to know, because it has to be on financial aid forms.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 02:12 am (UTC)
But that's common sense ^0^ That's what my parent use to tall me. 'This is how much we ear, don't spread it.' But i think that was more to do with not tempting fate on the matter of theives.
[identity profile] worldserpent.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 30th, 2005 05:48 pm (UTC)
That does bring up a good point. I suppose as a kid I instinctively realized that I should not talk about money to other people, but it wasn't a secret within the family. Besides, as for not worrying about cash, my dad would constantly say "if you want to have that when you grow up, you need to make a lot of money blah blah."
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[personal profile] velithya wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 12:55 am (UTC)
Yep, I wouldn't have a clue how much my parents earn.
[identity profile] i-smile.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 12:59 am (UTC)
Not only did my mum never say anything, but when my brother had to get financial aid for uni, she did her best to make sure we didn't see the slips, how much it is, etc. I know it's partly because she doesn't want us ever to worry about money, no matter how little we have (while still being aware of how much things cost, somehow. :D), but I also got a very strong feeling that it's sort of... gauche, not done, to talk about money. Especially if you need it. When my friends start saying they can't afford something, it makes me hugely uncomfortable; unless I'm really pressed as to why I'm not going to do something I can't afford to do, I'll usually just say "I don't really feel like it."
[identity profile] i-smile.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 01:40 am (UTC)
(I should say. I'm American, and my brother is, but my parents were both born and raised in Australia, so I don't really count so much on the American front. Most of my American friends have the same Don't Talk About It problem, but it seems to be less of a big deal for them. It doesn't really horrify them to be caught up in an "I'm poor!" commiseration-fest, :D, and they had more than a vague idea about family finances before reaching legal adulthood.)
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 02:15 am (UTC)
Apparently Australian parents does it over here too. It just doesn't make any sense to me. I mean wouldn't it be a good idea to teach your children money sense earlier in life rather than having them screw up really badly first? Mum and dad's explanation was that they wanted me to know just how important money was. You can't just spent it recklessly, you need savings, and you have to budget for everything. Probably why even now I have problem spending money without thinking it through -_-;;
[identity profile] i-smile.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 02:36 am (UTC)
We did somehow get it, though! We picked up the idea of savings & budgeting with more practical lessons, I guess--we got pocket money that we had to figure out how to spend on our own, and were never encouraged to ask for stuff or money from our parents aside from that. My brother & I tended to loan money to each other if we needed it, rather than asking Mum & Dad, and I used to charge interest. :D We both ended up being fairly cautious spenders, and I'm in charge of all of my living expenses this year and haven't had any trouble with it. And, hey, money's my hobby now. I'm doing an economics degree with no desire to go into business in any form.
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[identity profile] amei.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 02:20 pm (UTC)
I dunno. I'd like to think that I know how important money is, and my parents didn't really tell me at a young age how much they make.

Not everyone spends money recklessly just because they weren't told daddy makes X amount of dollars when they were three.

For me I have trouble spending money because it hurts to spend x hours of earnings from uh work, on something I don't really need.
[identity profile] muzivitch.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 01:46 am (UTC)
I'm American, and I still don't know EXACTLY how much they make. They do tell me how much their bills are, if I ask.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 02:18 am (UTC)
And once again the whole thing confuses me. I wonder if it is a cultural thing. I mean, my parents (and I) are from main-land China (Northern China, we are farther than BeiJing), and let's face it before the 80's China was a bit of a hole, and mum and dad was always extremely aware of how much money they have, how much they can spend, etc., and they jsut wanted me to have the ability to keep track of my own money, because having no nest is BAD!
[identity profile] rayemars.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 02:02 am (UTC)
I'm American, parents are American, etc., and yeah. I didn't know what either of my parents were making before they retired, nor do I know what my brothers are making at their own workplaces. I don't think it's a case of it being embarrassing lack-of-money-wise, since I'm middle class and know we're well enough off; it was just never came up. I might have asked a couple times when I was a kid, but I think it was brushed off; and I learned the amounts when I had to fill out applications for college, but didn't remember them, because it didn't seem important by that point.

*shrug* I guess it's just one of those things, like telling your kids if they don't behave you'll sell them to gypsies. I've only ever heard people talk about money in that they personally don't have it, but rarely mentioning how the situation stands with their parents.
[identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 02:22 am (UTC)
See, that's different with me. Mum and dad has always been extremely open about money; how much they earn, how much they have, and how much money all the bills are going to cost. Mum has always wanted me to understand the importance of money; budgeting is important for survival, don't spend on useless things, etc. I think a lot of it has to do with where we came from (main-land China, more north than Beijing), and it just seems people there are very open with all matters on money (with their family anyway.)
[identity profile] rayemars.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 02:28 am (UTC)
Heh. The funny thing is, for me, because I never have a really clear idea of what we have saved, I'm actually a much thriftier person than either of my parents. (Well, except in the case of books. Everyone needs one weakness.)

But yeah, I think it might be the location--and the economic situation while growing up?--that probably had an influence on it.
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[personal profile] archangelbeth wrote:
Aug. 29th, 2005 12:13 pm (UTC)
...my own situation as a child was pretty abnormal, since it was generally a case of "not enough, oh woe, the wolf is at the door, the IRS will seize the house, woe." O:p

However... No, I don't think most American parents tell children that data for quite some time. Probably because children will babble information to perfect strangers, and it's considered rude to talk about how much you are or are not paid. (Especially if it's a lot, I guess.)

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